I have tried so many times reloading the 333 file and I still can't get signal or even see echo 119 on the sat list. Any suggestions on what to try? I am thinking I have a bad box.. I also cant find any instructions on how to set up the box, like sequence on what first and what last regarding setting it up. I have signal from the dish with Fnushion and with old 9000plus but nothing from the 9800. thanks for helping.